60 Days Later Potatoes- Back to Eden Organic Gardening Method 101 in Wood Chips VS Composting Leaves
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FAIL 60 days later ON THE BACK TO EDEN METHOD and we will see how things look on Planting potatoes in Back to Eden Method with wood chips VS Fall Leaves
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I have a question regarding the field peas. Are these different from sugar snap peas because they look very similar. If they are different, could I use the sugar snap peas instead - as my family grows them in the garden already? There doesn't seem to be any fighting for nutrients between the peas and potatoes, and this would be fantastic if I could grow the two together and save space in my garden. Thanks for the help, thanks for the videos, I am learning a lot!
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Chickens devour carrots, squash, sweet potatoes so they are not turned off by the color orange. They do not like raw spuds.
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You are pulling your potatoes too soon... let the plant die back and you will get more potatoes! Even the damaged BTE wood chips were going to give you more
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sorry about those pesky things amazing how nature can survive we have to learn to copy it in our backyard without nasty sprays i love lady bugs to have them in my backyard cheers from Melbourne
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Send in the chickens.
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My question- you continually state BTE growing IN wood chips vs other methods. BTE is NOT growing IN chips, but in the developed soil BENEATH the chips. It takes at least 2 years to develop decent soil, how long have you been doing BTE? Please clarify in your videos so as not to turn away BTE afficianados before they have given it a good chance.
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I was planning on growing potatoes in my patch next year, but yikes. you're right, they sure are a puzzle. These are other suggestions I've read: letting chickens and guinea hens eat the adults, toads too, vacuuming the adults, flaming the tops of young plants, also attracting grosbeaks to eat them, and confusing the bugs with aromas -- tagetes tenuifolia marigolds (petals are edible) and garlic, also dead nettle and flax. This link has some suggestions (disregard the chem though) http://www.ecochem.com/resource_potatoes.html. Don't cover them, as you already have them in the ground so they'll just come up under the covers in the spring. Gosh, they remind me of this Star Trek episode, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZgWBpWnxk4. I wonder how the larvae would react to bright light...
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We are learning with you on these videos. Could you give us the details on the pre planting state of the wood chip field as regards to whether the chips were applied just the previous year, fresh or aged, or if there have been chips there for quite a while. Same for the leaf mulch.
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Thank you for your informative videos. I am curious as to whether you added manure to your wood chips?
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I am doing this next year (field peas with potatoes)! do you think it would work with garden peas/spring peas? thx for the tip!
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Since this is your first year doing the Back to Eden method, do you think the second year will produce better results?
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Thank you for sharing your comparison. It's so helpful, especially being new to vegetable gardening. I wondered which set of potatoes tasted better or if they came out the same.
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Thanks for this video. Always great to see someone showing results, not just the proposed method at the beginning. Sorry about the damage to your potatoes, though. At least it wasn't a total loss though.
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One thing I noticed was that your chips were not broken down much. I use them but they have broken down to a fine dark rich soil. I think your harvest will dramatically improve with time.
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Thanks, Mark! I'm always amazed that you can make the time to do these excellent videos! I have a friend here in Colorado who was raised in NJ and he also says "Also too..." like you sometimes do. I always chuckle when you say that.
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Nice little comparative experiment. Last year the Japanese beetles and humidity ruined everything in my orchard. After 1 year under wood chips, I noticed that this year there was no fungus or bug pressure, not even a single fallen or chewed leaf, despite no rain in over a month and temps consistently in the upper 90's. I do not spray or water. I planted tomatoes, cucumbers and peppers in an Eden garden, some in raised beds with garden soil (composted leaves as amendments) and some in standard row cropping. The Eden garden and raised beds did outstanding, with the Eden garden edging out the raised beds. The irrigated field actually struggled. This fall I am woodchipping all the raised beds and about 2 more acres of field. I now have approximately 1 acre under wood chips.
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HI, Mark. The Ukrainian here again. I forgot to tell you one more thing. Here in US, I always plant garlic with my potatoes, tomatoes and zucchinies. I just go to SAMs club and buy the whole net bag of garlic. That way I don't spend allot of money on garlic. Even thou potatoes and other vegetables I plant are organic, garlic isn't. We do not eat that garlic, it's just to discourage bugs from my veggies. I yet to have Colorado bug on my potatoes.( I also plant garlic around roses). My dad used to place potato peels all over potato plot in a Fall after potatoes were dug up. The Colorado bug would go into those potato peels to eat them. My dad every morning would go and collect all the bugs with the peels and kill them. He would do that for a week. That way we had allot less bugs next year. The bugs would come to our potatoes when they were in blooms. That's why it was less damage to the foliage that way, because most of the potatoes were already formed, they were just growing bigger.
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Hi Mark
We are Jayne and John from the UK and we began our B2E project 3 years ago. Nobody told us back then just how hard it would be to establish and how disappointing at times. We don't get the potato beetles but we get slugs although it's less of a problem with the woodchip and we are in an area very susceptible to blight although we haven't had a problem since we laid the woodchip.
Some vegetables seem to love the woodchip / mulch but others hate it. We haven't managed to grow a single carrot so far although the garlics, beetroots and pumpkins have gone crazy. We don't use any sprays or fertilisers either, just our grass clippings.
Our biggest pest problem here are blackbirds who dig around in the woodchip looking for bugs / worms and disturb all our newly planted seeds and seedlings so we have to net.
We believe it will be 7 years before maximum benefit is seen and we can grow in abundance.
Very few people here in the UK are trying this so thank you for such informative videos, we will keep following your progress. -
That was really informative, thank you! My feelings are exactly the same as yours re spraying, and I'm going through similar trials (in every sense...) but on a much smaller scale. I love the field-pea companion planting - I'll certainly try that next season.
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Sorry to hear about beetle but I admire your resolve to not use spray.I know it might be not practical for such scale but have you thought about using any kind of plastic fine mesh 1.3 to 2mm over the rows, if managed properly can be used for many years.
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